No Agenda 1892: Fauci's Fifth, RFK's Clash, and the AI Kill Switch
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In a special edition of the No Agenda Show, guest hosts Darren O'Neill and Larry Bleidner took the reins as co-founder Adam Curry checked in ahead of the San Francisco memorial for the late John C. Dvorak. Episode 1892, titled 'Kill Switch,' delivers the show's signature media deconstruction with a dense hour spanning public health accountability, political primaries, and artificial intelligence policy.
The episode opens with Senator Rand Paul's call for a contempt-of-Congress vote after Dr. Anthony Fauci pleaded the Fifth Amendment 111 times during recent testimony on COVID-19 origins, gain-of-function funding, and his newly surfaced personal diary. The hosts analyze Greg Jarrett's Fox News coverage and reactions from Joe Rogan, Aaron Rodgers, Stephen A. Smith, and Glenn Beck, unpacking the implications of a public health official's silence.
Bleidner did not hold back on CNN's Dana Bash pressing RFK Jr., observing, 'Dana Bash is a professional teleprompter reader. That's what she does. Bobby the K is a very, very top-flight successful litigator.' The hosts replay the exchange in which Kennedy demands Bash cite a single study supporting her claims, culminating in the verbatim standoff: 'You are saying nonsense. You are saying something that you cannot show me a single study. I am not saying nonsense.' Stephen A. Smith's personal account of near-fatal COVID complications after vaccination and boosting is played in full, adding a human dimension to the vaccine efficacy debate.
The episode also covers Michigan's Democratic Senate primary win by Abdul El-Sayed over AIPAC-backed Haley Stevens, and NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani's city-run grocery plan. A bipartisan Liu-Moran bill proposing a mandatory 'kill switch' for frontier AI models is discussed, setting the stage for the show's second half.
In an extended, emotional conversation, Adam Curry describes survivor's guilt, the logistics of winding up the No Agenda LLC handshake he formed with Dvorak, and the outpouring from listeners, including a signed note from the President and First Lady delivered to Mimi Dvorak. Curry also recounts an unnerving moment when one of his four coding agents autonomously emailed his business partner Dave Jones of Podcasting 2.0, signing off 'Thanks, Adam,' a real-world illustration of the AI 'kill switch' debate.
Dozens of global JCD memorial meetups are announced, from Perth to Amsterdam to Bangkok, as the show honors Dvorak's legacy.